Circle C Neighbors

This is a dialog I had with Donald Abrams,
Chair, Steering Committee via e-mail this morning. NOTE: I've said a number of times, myself and others were against any legal action when Bill Gammon began the legal fight the day of the election. Myself and many neighbors I'd spoken with, hoped to resolve the BOD problems of withholding information, without using the legal forum.
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Donald Abrams: The By-laws committee work is still in progress. the final report from the Ad-Hoc Committee on By-Laws to the Chair of the Steering Committee has not been completed. this report is pending the final determination of the courts on the issues raised by another homeowner in Circle C Ranch. After the ruling from the courts, the committee will meet, determine what they believe is an appropriate amendment to the by-laws and then submit the report to the Chair of the Steering Committee. That report will then be forwarded to the Board of Directors for action, to include presentation to the members for comment prior to any election on potential changes.

At this point, there is no work product available for distribution as this is still in Committee conference.

SAL COSTELLO: If this is true, and the bylaws are not ready to be seen by the members, why did you tell the HOA Board in a board meeting 4 weeks ago that the Bylaws committee was ready to call a town hall meeting?

I have been waiting for months for the list of homeowners that are on committees, you said I would receive that information, but I never have.

Myself & Abrams have a dialog II

DONALD ABRAMS: The reply you refer to was noted by the Committee. However, with the legal issues unresolved, after consultation with the Chair of the ad hoc
committee, the Board, and I agreed to hold off on a town hall meeting until the legal issues were resolved. We did not want to do the meeting and have whatever came out of that meeting negated by a judicial event.

Relative to the Committee members, it is my memory that I would inform you of the Chairs. The Committees are staffed by volunteers who do not need to become victims of the vitriol generated by some of the members of the CCHOA. I have accepted a role that places me in the cross hairs of any one with a concern. In that the Committees report to me, any concerns for those committees from the membership should be channeled through me. I will be
happy to inform you of the Committee Chairs. I am sure you understand that a
volunteer member of a committee does not need to get phone calls at all hours of the night. Unfortunately, it has been reported to me that this type of event occurs. Again, if any member of the CCHOA has a question, concern, criticism or other issue, I would invite them to write the information
center, write or e-mail me or call me directly.

That is one of the responsibilities I have accepted as Chair of the Steering Committee.

FYI
Recreation - Toni Guckert
Parks & Infrastructure - Dwayne Dow
Media - Carl Cappolino
Communications - Ken Levine
Special Events - Joy Myletic
Education - Carolyn Merit
Safety - Walter Groman

I trust that this answers your concerns.

SAL COSTELLO: As a paying member of the CCHOA, I ask again for the list of my neighbors that are on the committees. Your ''vitriol'' reasoning for not responding to my request holds no water.

As far as I know, no committee chair person has ever been attacked in any form or in any forum, from me or any other person. Please hold up some examples, or respond with the list I ask for. HOA's commonly post this information on the HOA website. I have no plans to contact anyone on the list.

I am unaware of any late night calls that have been made. I would not condone a late night call to anyone.

I've heard that Mr. Gammon will press on the legal issues for 10 years if needed.

DONALD ABRAMS: It would be my guess that that effort will bring to a halt any growth that we might achieve as a wholly volunteer? organization. Perhaps you could encourage him to negotiate a settlement, drop the lawsuit and let this homeowners association grow as best as it can for a volunteer organization and serve the members needs. Please remember two things. One this is a homeowners association. In the grand scheme of life, this is diddly. Second,?  anyone can run for the Board, particularly if they file in a timely manor. This is not a company with shareholders. This is a volunteer community organization that wants to maintain and create a pleasant place to live for the folks out here. What has happened in the past cannot be changed. What we need to try to do is do better.

SAL COSTELLO: Mr. Gammon has asked the BOD and HOA lawyers to settle on a number of occasions. They have always been closed to the idea. When a member such as myself asks for a simple list of what neighbors are on what committee, and the governing documents promise this right to me, and you will not comply. There is a problem.

Imagine for a moment that the residents received all information that we had the right to see. There would be no lawsuit.

If it's diddly, why are non-paid position board members fighting residents and keeping information from them? If it's diddly and you are not a puppet, then deliver the information I have the right to see.

Where is the 2002 audit report that we were to receive (as per governing documents)? Why has the BOD not used the D & O insurance, but instead used the costs of the lawyers paid as political tool?

DONALD ABRAMS: no response.

Correction:

Correction: Where is the 2002 audit report that we were to receive at the annual meeting (as per governing documents)?
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Maybe the problem with Donald and the other Bradley team is, they feel our rights as stated in the governing documents, as paying members add up to DIDDLY. (his words not mine)

If it's diddly, then why hide the documents?

EXAMPLE: I asked for the 10 year lease one week ago, I was told it would take a week to make a copy (are we in 1970 with one xerox machine in the Austin?)

They told me it would take a week, I asked again today, one week later, and they said it would take more time...heres part of the email they sent me after I left a message.

''The documents that you requested from the Information Center, are not in complete form. Our personnel are going through the storage unit in an attempt to restore all of the documents which were at the Information Center prior to the visit to the attorney's office. We anticipate this task to be completed in very short order, and we will forward the copies that you requested''

All that time is actually enough to rewrite the darn things.

They wouldn't do such a thing. Right?
Reminds me of the time I saw the 20 year contract for Susan Hoovers landscape company. I talked about it on this site, then went back to get a copy...it had dissapeared.

HHHhmmm

Here Lies the Problem


According to the previous post:
DONALD ABRAMS: ... However, with the legal issues unresolved, after consultation with the Chair of the ad hoc committee, the Board, and I agreed to hold off on a town hall meeting until the legal issues were resolved.
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Note that the bylaws committee and the steering committee were not involved in this decision. If we, as an association are to function for the best of the association then we need to make decisions. This issue should be presented to the committee that is involved and to the steering committee. And since we are paying lawyers to advise us regarding this lawsuit why not ask them if the lawsuit prevent us from proceeding with the business of the association, specifically the bylaws revision.

Our problem has been and apparently still is that too few people are making decisions for the association. Let's correct thais problem and then move to the next - communication.