Jefferson Park Neighborhood Association

My vote

I would like a waiver from current City codes for our neighborhood. Perhaps for other older neighborhoods with narrow streets, on a case-by-case basis. But that would be for their residents to decide.

I would like a waiver that allows resident parking on their own sidewalk easement, provided so doing does not block the entire sidewalk. Perhaps that translates to less of a set back?

It is my opinion that our neighborhood streets are too narrow for resident on-street parking, which is one reason I am against asking the City to build actual paved sidewalks.

Again, my opinion, I believe on-street parking should be be used by non-residents (i.e. occasional visitors).

Thanks Wendy.

Bev



By Bev

On track

Now some thoughts are flowing. I think modifying the setbacks is probably the way to go. As I have worked in civil engineering for years now. I believe (and again I state I am not a member of the board) your setbacks are 14' maybe 15' if I remember correctly. A sidewalk is 3' wide typically with a 2' strip of land between the curb. Which would leave a 9'-10' free zone for parking a car on most of the streets in San Gabriel. The streets as I heard are 27' from what a parkwise guy told me. If you park two cars on that street with an average width of say a typical Ford F-150 is 6.5'. one on each side equals 13' leaving a path of 14' roughly to drive through. Now this is fine unless two cars are meeting on the street going opposite directions or say a garbage truck needs to get through. I think a bog part of the problem in the neighborhood, which is unfortunate, is that there a large number of rentals some of which are duplexes and larger. With a duplex it wouldnt be unreasonable for there to be 4 cars on the property (2 for each residence). where on most of these lots can you park 4 cars seriously. Drive and look, its impossible. Now for the alligations of Wendy being the cuplrit to it all. I have had numerous people speak with me about seeing her with a camera taking pictures of people parked on the easement. I am not trying to accuse her as I have never seen this action. But the people I have heard this from seemed like very reliable sources whom had recieved tickets as well. I wanted to put the information out there and make people aware of what was going on. Now I am not saying nor was it ever implied that the association was calling. But a member yes, that was the implication. I do believe many will come to this next meeting and I have a feeling from what I have witnessed from the many frustrated residents of San Gabriel that it should be a very intense discussion. Many are not happy, and know it is a city law not to park there. I think the concern is the alleged spying, and the malicious intent of someone in the neighborhood that seems to be out to get people. And not all as many park on the easement and have yet to recieve a ticket. I think that is leading to some of the frustrations too.

Wendy I appologize for bringing this to the message board here, but I started seeing some very hostile neighbors of yours and thought it would be good to air it here.

Measurements are interesting

Your information on the measurements was very interesting, thank you Ron.

Please see my post about the city ordinances from Ricardo Martinez of ParkWise ... it seems to me that some blocks may qualify for a Temporary Revocable Easement from the city. Do you agree?

I do hope we can come to some amicable solution to this problem.

I know that I don't have the cash to remodel my lot to create additional off-street parking and I'm guessing many of my neighbors are in the same predicament.

I realize that the next meeting is intended to elect new officers and there may not be time to cover the parking issue ... but perhaps another meeting could be scheduled fairly soon?

By Bev

 

I used Google Earth and checked on a few things.

In San Gabriel neighborhood our average easement width (property line setback) is 14 feet. Our streets are 22 feet in width.

In other Tucson areas ... I checked around the Mountain avenue area .... the easement averages only 8 feet.

Considering that an average vehicle is 5-6 feet wide ... we should be able to park close to our property setback and still leave the same 8 foot easement as other neighborhoods have.

Also confirming that when cars are parked in the street opposite each other ... the roadway narrows to about 10 feet in width.

I also noted that some small properties with two driveways cut to the kerb have too narrow a street frontage to legally use street parking. Probably OK for their own cars, but a problem for visitors.

I look forward to seeing you all on the 24th.

Bev