Gardenview/Graceland Farms Neighborhood Association

It would be interesting to know how many homeowners in the "legal" HOA sections of Northwood Hills actually  paid their dues for the HOA? There seems to be an extreme lack of interest in having a HOA so I am wondering how many even know about the HOA and paid.

It would be interesting to know how many people in the Sections who are not legally included in the HOA paid and whose money is now being kept in a special account for a possible refund. 

How much of our HOA money was paid to the lawyer who gave the HOA board members wrong information regarding Section C.  There was also a question regarding Section D being excluded as well. Was the board given wrong information from the lawyer about that secion as well?  

Since the majority of the "common area" is in Section C and Section C is not included in the HOA then by what authority are we taking care of their property.

We are not talking about a handful of homeowners who are legally not included in the HOA. We are talking about nearly half of the subdivision.

I think the HOA needs to take a new vote and give the homeowners accurate information prior to voting.

 The way the voting was handled was extremely unfair and since the homeowners out here were given inaccurate information prior to and at the meeting the HOA should be put in limbo status until such time as all legal issues are resolved and all homeowners are notified. All dues should be returned to the homeowners who did pay. Everyone who lives in this subdivision should be subject to the same legal ramifications for not following the "rules" and not just a few.

You can delete posts and you can delete this message board but the facts remain that the homeowners were not told the truth and the HOA is unfair in this mess of a subdivision.  If "not telling the truth" is not lying then so be it. 

When the HOA board learned the truth it should have been conveyed to all the people who paid dues out here.  Why not post a sign out here with the newsletter in a brochure box since you are worried about stamps and let everyone know what is going on. Many people do not have computers. 

Please do address the fact that Section C and possibly Section D common areas ARE NOT included in the HOA so there is no legal basis by which the legal HOA homeowners should be paying for the upkeep of the land behind their homes. 

 

It would be interesting to know how many homeowners in the "legal" HOA sections of Northwood Hills actually  paid their dues for the HOA? There seems to be an extreme lack of interest in having a HOA so I am wondering how many even know about the HOA and paid.  140 out of 185 have paid to date or 76%

It would be interesting to know how many people in the Sections who are not legally included in the HOA paid and whose money is now being kept in a special account for a possible refund.  25 out of 47 or 53%

How much of our HOA money was paid to the lawyer who gave the HOA board members wrong information regarding Section C.  There was also a question regarding Section D being excluded as well. Was the board given wrong information from the lawyer about that secion as well?   none of YOUR money was used for this.  it was paid out of the pockets of the volunteer committee.  Section d is in the HOA.  check the paperwork

Since the majority of the "common area" is in Section C and Section C is not included in the HOA then by what authority are we taking care of their property.  our legal team is looking into section C and this issue.  as soon as we can answer this we will.  it should be soon.

We are not talking about a handful of homeowners who are legally not included in the HOA. We are talking about nearly half of the subdivision.  actually you are talking about 47 homes out of a possible 232, or 20%.

I think the HOA needs to take a new vote and give the homeowners accurate information prior to voting.  you are more than welcome to organize and pay for this.  if you can get two thirds of the home owners to vote to dissolve then that will have to be recognized by the HOA.  but if it was me, i would talk to the city and make sure thats what you all want to do.  i have talked to the city.  i don't like the alternative. 

 The way the voting was handled was extremely unfair and since the homeowners out here were given inaccurate information prior to and at the meeting the HOA should be put in limbo status until such time as all legal issues are resolved and all homeowners are notified. All dues should be returned to the homeowners who did pay. Everyone who lives in this subdivision should be subject to the same legal ramifications for not following the "rules" and not just a few.  the stipulations of the vote were unanimously agreed on by the members of the board.  the stipulation came straight out of the by-laws.  not sure how else to do it or how to make it more "fair".  as far as putting the HOA in limbo and returning funds, if we do that then how will the legal issues be addressed and settled?  who will do it? you?  who will pay for it?  you?  i think very few people will agree with this idea.  however, if you would like to help us get this mess taken care of your help will be greatly appreciated!

You can delete posts and you can delete this message board but the facts remain that the homeowners were not told the truth and the HOA is unfair in this mess of a subdivision.  If "not telling the truth" is not lying then so be it.    as i said all posts are welcome, except ones that are personally attacking.  we don't need that here nor is it necessary.  and you're right, we have a mess to deal with and we're doing the best we can to clean it up.

When the HOA board learned the truth it should have been conveyed to all the people who paid dues out here.  Why not post a sign out here with the newsletter in a brochure box since you are worried about stamps and let everyone know what is going on. Many people do not have computers.  again, we have not learned the truth.  we do not know the truth.  our legal team is looking into this and as soon as we know the truth we will get it to you via this website and in writing and it will be documented in the HOA records.

Please do address the fact that Section C and possibly Section D common areas ARE NOT included in the HOA so there is no legal basis by which the legal HOA homeowners should be paying for the upkeep of the land behind their homes.   again, out legal team is looking in to this and any other issue concerning section C

By reading this post by Mr. Norris, it appears to me that the board of directors is running the association the way they want the association to be run, not how the homeowners want the association to be run.  This whole thing seems so one sided.  In my honest opinion, I believe that just about everyone in this neighborhood is feeling sick to thier stomach about this HOA mess.  What normal person does not feel this way?  What normal person would want to buy a house here?  People go to work, come home after a long day, to a place where they can get away from bosses, legal issues, being told what to do by their bosses, etc.  To me, this HOA has taken away that place called "home".

I also, respectfully , like to say one more thing.  What normal person would like to come home from a hard days work, to a home that is governed by a "Legal Team"?