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I have no idea when his mother went to Kenya, but she was only 18 when he was born. In order for him to have been a citizen at birth (IF he was born outside the country), she had to have resided in the US for 5 years after the age of 16.


I've thought this over a little more and I thinnk it now makes perfect sense.   A pregnant teen-ager expecting her first child would naturally travel to a British Colony in the third world with poor medical facilities and jeopardize her offsping's health and American citizenship rather than stay in Hawaii with her family and good medical care.

 

She was married to a Muslim.  Muslim wives do the bidding of the husband.  They go where they are told to go.

 


From Obama's book, My Spiritual Journey. "...in any event although my father was raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist." 

Being maried to a Muslim doesn't look like the answer.

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You actually believe that lying creep?

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Now for the 5 year rule?

 

Many thanks for the research!

 

 

If you're going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

 

You see it doesn't say five years after age 16,  just five years so even if you believe the absurd story Obama was born in Kenya, he was still a natural born citizen.

 

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.

 

 

 


Losing your citizenship

For a natural-born citizen, losing your citizenship is actually quite difficult. The law prohibits the taking of your citizenship against your will, but there are certain actions a citizen can take which are assumed to be a free-will decision that constitutes a voluntary renunciation of the citizenship.

Moving to another country for an extended period of time does not constitute an act that presumes renunciation. Neither does taking a routine-level job with a foreign government. This stand is quite different from U.S. policy of the past, where even being naturalized in another nation could be seen as renunciation. The sections of the law that pertained to losing ones nationality for many of these cases was found at 8 USC 1482 and related sections.

The U.S. Code does, however, see some acts as creating the possibility of a loss of nationality. When you lose your U.S. nationality, you are no longer under the protection or jurisdiction of the United States. When the United States considers you to no longer be of U.S. nationality, it in effect considers you to no longer be a citizen. Note that these are things you can do that may force you to lose your citizenship. The law also says that these acts must be voluntary and with the intent of losing U.S. citizenship. The ways to lose citizenship are detailed in 8 USC 1481:

  • Becoming naturalized in another country
  • Swearing an oath of allegiance to another country
  • Serving in the armed forces of a nation at war with the U.S., or if you are an officer in that force
  • Working for the government of another nation if doing so requires that you become naturalized or that you swear an oath of allegiance
  • Formally renouncing citizenship at a U.S. consular office
  • Formally renouncing citizenship to the U.S. Attorney General
  • By being convicted of committing treason


I don't see where any of these events could have happened, so can we finally drop the "Kenyan president"?

 

Now for the 5 year rule?

 

Many thanks for the research!

 

 

If you're going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

 

You see it doesn't say five years after age 16,  just five years so even if you believe the absurd story Obama was born in Kenya, he was still a natural born citizen.

 

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.

 

 

 


Losing your citizenship

For a natural-born citizen, losing your citizenship is actually quite difficult. The law prohibits the taking of your citizenship against your will, but there are certain actions a citizen can take which are assumed to be a free-will decision that constitutes a voluntary renunciation of the citizenship.

Moving to another country for an extended period of time does not constitute an act that presumes renunciation. Neither does taking a routine-level job with a foreign government. This stand is quite different from U.S. policy of the past, where even being naturalized in another nation could be seen as renunciation. The sections of the law that pertained to losing ones nationality for many of these cases was found at 8 USC 1482 and related sections.

The U.S. Code does, however, see some acts as creating the possibility of a loss of nationality. When you lose your U.S. nationality, you are no longer under the protection or jurisdiction of the United States. When the United States considers you to no longer be of U.S. nationality, it in effect considers you to no longer be a citizen. Note that these are things you can do that may force you to lose your citizenship. The law also says that these acts must be voluntary and with the intent of losing U.S. citizenship. The ways to lose citizenship are detailed in 8 USC 1481:

  • Becoming naturalized in another country
  • Swearing an oath of allegiance to another country
  • Serving in the armed forces of a nation at war with the U.S., or if you are an officer in that force
  • Working for the government of another nation if doing so requires that you become naturalized or that you swear an oath of allegiance
  • Formally renouncing citizenship at a U.S. consular office
  • Formally renouncing citizenship to the U.S. Attorney General
  • By being convicted of committing treason


I don't see where any of these events could have happened, so can we finally drop the "Kenyan president"?


Here's the deal, you choose to believe what you want and allow me the same. Thanx!

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